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#504271 - 03/22/17 05:55 AM What Is Intelligence?!
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Share your thoughts about this:


Psychologist Howard Gardner of Harvard University created the Multiple Intelligences Theory which explains the nine ways in which we apply intelligence for different uses. Although his theory has since been adapted and modified to include additional intelligence types, it still remains a foundation for which the intelligence theory is based on. Which one of these do you think applies to you?


1. Linguistic Intelligence

As self-explanatory as the title suggests, this type of intelligence is all about the processing of verbal skills and the ways in which sounds, meanings and rhythms of words communicate information. Using well-developed language to express complex ideas and thoughts is one of the main traits of an individual who has linguistic intelligence. This type of intelligence is popular amongst people such as writers, poets or public speakers.

2. Logical-Mathematical Intelligence

Logical-mathematical intelligence is when an individual has the ability to think analytically in order to discern patterns, whether they are logical or numerical. Considering hypotheses, calculating and completing mathematical operations are some of the traits of somebody with a logical-mathematical mind. People who hold this type of intelligence like to analyse situations in terms of reasoning and patterns, based strongly on logic. This type of intelligence is popular amongst scientists, mathematicians and detectives.

3. Spatial Intelligence

If you think in pictures and images, you’ve more than likely got spatial intelligence. Visualising clearly and accurately is a trait, alongside mental imagery, image manipulation and an active imagination. Artists, painters and architects tend to have this type of intelligence.

4. Bodily-Kinaesthetic Intelligence

This type of intelligence is all about being able to control one’s body effectively and skilfully using a variety of physical skills. This intelligence also places a huge importance on timings and hand-eye co-ordination. Athletes, surgeons and craftspeople tend to have this type of intelligence.

5. Musical Intelligence

The ability to produce, maintain and appreciate music and rhythm is a type of intelligence described as musical intelligence. This type of intelligence is often linked to emotion as the two are very closely tied, with mathematical intelligent people sharing some of the same cognitive traits as those with musical intelligence.

6. Interpersonal Intelligence

Interpersonal intelligence can also be described as empathy, as the two are very similar. People with this type of intelligence can detect and identify with the emotions, desires and motivations of others. Understanding other people is one of the main traits of somebody with interpersonal intelligence and this is showcased in many job types, such as care & social workers, actors, politicians and teachers.

7. Intrapersonal Intelligence

Intrapersonal intelligence is similar to interpersonal, except this type is concerned with detecting and understanding the emotions of oneself, rather than of somebody else. If you feel in tune with your own thoughts and understand yourself well, holding yourself as a priority and being self-motivated are big traits within this intelligence type. Psychologists, writers and philosophers are popular within this group.


8. Naturalist Intelligence

This type of intelligence is perhaps one of the rarest of the list and this type of intelligence appreciates and identifies everything that comes from nature. Whether it is a certain type of plant or a small woodland animal, this type of intelligence is a large part of our evolutionary history and people such as landscape gardeners, chefs or hunters often have this type of intelligence.

9. Existential Intelligence

This type of intelligence mainly concerns philosophers and the deep-thinkers. Existential intelligence belongs to those who question the world, our existence and everything within it, particularly things relating to the human race.

Although some of these types of intelligence go by other names and you may have heard of others (emotional intelligence being a similar but different type of example), these are the basic types of intelligence that can be found in different people. Which one do you fit most into?

http://www.learning-mind.com/types-of-intelligence/

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#504282 - 03/27/17 04:42 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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This is a very interesting post. I've never considered that there are so many different categories of intelligence. I usually just thought of many of the types mentioned here only as talents or skills but I suppose any talent or skill does necessitate a high level of comprehension and utility.

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#504289 - 03/28/17 12:12 AM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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Which one of these do you think applies to you?


A mix of existential, intrapersonal, logical/mathematical, musical, and linguistic, though I think that linguistic intelligence should entail the ability to learn and speak multiple languages. (I only know English) Incidentally, my BA is in philosophy with a minor in English. I love to write short fiction and play guitar.

What about mechanical/engineering intelligence? I think that type of aptitude should have a category of its own.

In the main, I would argue that the most intelligent individuals would excel in many or ALL of these types. For example, take Leonardo da Vinci. Now, that's what I would call an "intelligent" fellow!

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Edited by Dax9 (03/28/17 12:14 AM)
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#504294 - 03/28/17 06:55 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LowKey]
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Originally Posted By: LowKey
This is a very interesting post. I've never considered that there are so many different categories of intelligence. I usually just thought of many of the types mentioned here only as talents or skills but I suppose any talent or skill does necessitate a high level of comprehension and utility.


Exactly smile

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#504295 - 03/28/17 07:27 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: Triple 6]
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Originally Posted By: RealJK
Intelligence, at the very least, requires understanding the nature of the word itself. Its derivations and sources. Wouldn't you say?


I think it's important to mention that the conception of intelligence will change because nothing stays the same.


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#504296 - 03/28/17 07:35 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: Dax9]
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Originally Posted By: Dax9


In the main, I would argue that the most intelligent individuals would excel in many or ALL of these types.



Well, there is a lot to discuss here, maybe you will find this interesting:


Einstein said, "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." Socrates said, "I know that I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing." For centuries, philosophers have tried to pinpoint the true measure of intelligence. More recently, neuroscientists have entered the debate, searching for answers about intelligence from a scientific perspective: What makes some brains smarter than others? Are intelligent people better at storing and retrieving memories? Or perhaps their neurons have more connections allowing them to creatively combine dissimilar ideas? How does the firing of microscopic neurons lead to the sparks of inspiration behind the atomic bomb? Or to Oscar Wilde's wit?

Uncovering the neural networks involved in intelligence has proved difficult because, unlike, say, memory or emotions, there isn't even a consensus as to what constitutes intelligence in the first place. It is widely accepted that there are different types of intelligence—analytic, linguistic, emotional, to name a few—but psychologists and neuroscientists disagree over whether these intelligences are linked or whether they exist independently from one another.

http://bigthink.com/going-mental/what-is-intelligence-2




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#504312 - 03/30/17 11:03 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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Einstein said, "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.


Well, sure, I bet most of us would agree that intelligence is something more along the lines of one's ability to think, solve problems, invent, design, or create and not just how much one has read from books. Knowledge gained through experience over time would better be classified as wisdom rather than intelligence.

If you like reading Einstein's thoughts, you may find his Ideas and Opinions engaging if you are not familiar with that book.

I'm not so sure I agree that all the types listed in your original post would qualify as "intelligence". Some of those categories sound more like artistic talents or mere capacity to connect with others (or one's self). Again, I would describe true intelligence as a mental prowess conducive for adaptation, survival, or at least toward one's success or will to power. But that's just my unprofessional opinion.

At the other extreme I suppose it could be argued that there are as many types of intelligence as there are human endeavors, whether they be "good" or "evil". Throughout history serial killers, organized criminals, con artists, and Nazis have exuded forms of superior intelligence.
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#504364 - 04/14/17 07:34 AM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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I probably fit more into logical, musical, and existential intelligence. However should we not, as Satanists, constantly strive to improve our own intellectual abilities in all it's aspects, and not just the one we naturally fit into?

I believe the Satanic Witch touches upon this. Something about being naturally dominant/submissive. I used to be pretty submissive/introverted in many ways. I'm the complete opposite now because I put a conscious effort into doing so. I currently apply this newfound intelligence to sales. I suspect if I were to put a conscious effort into other areas of intelligence, I would increase my life skill-set in other ways that do not present occur to me. I sure as hell never thought I'd be selling phones, lol.
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#504369 - 04/14/17 03:27 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: Machiavel]
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However should we not, as Satanists, constantly strive to improve our own intellectual abilities in all it's aspects, and not just the one we naturally fit into?


What if you didn't?

This sounds to me like falling into the trap of assigning yourself a value instead of assigning values to what you choose to do.

Discovering that you do not have to assign ANY value to yourself at all is an alien concept but one that is a serious part of Satanism.

I finally created a complete audio program "Discovering the Satanic God" taking 45 minutes to as clearly as possible explain exactly what this means.

Self esteem is the booby prize. To choose to be your own God is to drop any form of self-evaluation at all.

Try it. You'll like it! smile
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#504374 - 04/16/17 06:25 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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Problem solving seems to be the basis of intelligence. There are useful skills, and things that require self discipline combined with natural inclination, but I hesitate to call it intelligence. To me self discipline and inclination are great, but they don't involve intellect so much as character and luck. I'm thinking mostly about the bodily kinestetic definition of intelligence with my criticism of the theory in the op.

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#504431 - 05/08/17 10:49 AM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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If you like Gardener's Multiple Intelligence, you'll probably like Spearman's concept of g
General info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)

G is a measure designed to test general intelligence, aimed to overcome issues from the IQ tests. It's a bit more tricky to measure but uses more variables to get a better picture of how intelligent a person is overall, rather than IQ tests which can have a lot of bias towards certain types of intellect.

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#504432 - 05/08/17 01:27 PM Aside on intelligence tests... [Re: icklecat]
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I recall how in the U.S. Army there was a "GT" test.

I was carefully informed it stood for "General Telligence". grin
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#504508 - 06/09/17 10:21 PM Re: Aside on intelligence tests... [Re: Nemo]
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Originally Posted By: Nemo
I recall how in the U.S. Army there was a "GT" test.

I was carefully informed it stood for "General Telligence". grin


Haha. General trainability is what I was told. I like your definition better.

I have music, math/logic, and existential as intelligence. I am good at certain inter/intrapersonal things, but honestly I am not good at peopling. (Grammar is great too)

I need time to really communicate which is horrible when someone is demanding an answer right away


Edited by Nufan (06/09/17 10:22 PM)

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#504562 - 06/27/17 06:43 AM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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#504563 - 06/27/17 11:10 AM Re: Aside on intelligence tests... [Re: Nufan]
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Who can I talk to if I have a problem with a post..thanks

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#504598 - 07/03/17 04:12 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: LightAngel]
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"Light Angel" posted: "Share your thoughts about this."

Okay, I certainly will:

"Gardner's definition of intelligence has been widely criticized in education circles as well as in the field of psychology. Perhaps the strongest and most enduring critique of his theory of "multiple intelligences" centers on its supposed lack of empirical evidence.

Gardner responds that his theory is based entirely on empirical evidence as opposed to experimental evidence, as he does not believe experimental evidence is appropriate for a theoretical synthesis."

Here are quotes from some of Gardner's peers:

Daniel T. Willingham, a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia, wrote in the journal Education Next that Gardner's theory "is an inaccurate description of the mind" and that "the more closely an application draws on the theory, the less likely the application is to be effective."

Linda S. Gottfredson, professor of education at the University of Delaware, wrote in the Wilson Quarterly that "by denying the difficulties in accommodating intellectual difference, multiple intelligence theories may do little more than squander scarce learning time and significant opportunities for improvements in the quality of American schooling."

Mindy L. Kornhaber, assistant professor of education policy studies at Pennsylvania State University's College of Education, found that nearly 100 teachers in 11 school districts liked Gardner's ideas because they validated what they knew from experience about the power of teaching different children in different ways.

Kornhaber, responding to Willingham in a letter to Education Next, said, "It is exceedingly odd that he offers not a single example of good practice" stemming from the traditional view that intelligence is an interrelated hierarchy and that people who are smart in one category usually are smart in others.

In a letter to the Wilson Quarterly, Gardner wrote that the multiple intelligence theory "was developed as a theory of the mind, not as an educational intervention." But he supported the notion that the theory "holds out hope that students can be reached in different ways."

He added that "the standard psychologist's view of intelligence is a recipe for despair. It holds that there is but one intelligence and that intelligence is highly heritable."

Administrators who think children of different achievement levels will learn better if placed in the same classroom say teachers can use multiple intelligence theory to take different approaches with different students. Gottfredson quoted a textbook for future teachers used at her university: "Educators' thinking has progressively moved away from policies of exclusion and homogenous grouping toward an emphasis on the value of diversity, policies of inclusion and practices that meet the needs of all students."

In practice, Gottfredson said, "these instructional strategies for mixed-ability classes preclude precisely what helps the more able students most: accelerating their curriculum, allowing them to interact with their intellectual peers and making them work hard."

Sounds like the education system in America is resorting to the bullshit philosophy of egalitarianism doesn't it?

Gardner's 1983 book, "Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligences," arrived just as American educators were being pummeled in national reports for failing to teach reading, writing and mathematics adequately. SAT scores were dropping, and traditional educational theorists were arguing for longer school days, more homework and more testing.

Gardner's ideas appealed to many traditional teachers who extolled hard work but also had some students who did better on tests if multiplication tables were set to music or works of literature were acted out in class.

Since then, many psychologists have criticized the lack of scientific measures of Gardner's intelligences, and some educators say this leads to failed educational policies, such as ending ability grouping in schools.

Dax9 posted:

"What about mechanical/engineering intelligence? I think that type of aptitude should have a category of its own."

It seems as though an ordinary Satanist has already found a flaw in this esteemed professor's hypothesis. I suppose America doesn't need anyone with mechanical or engineering intelligence right? Perhaps the Chinese will do it all for us!

I spent 10 years as an educator, and the reason I got out of it is because I realized it was a worthless profession. The old quote really is true: "Those that can, DO … those that can't, TEACH."


Edited by Baron Karza (07/03/17 04:17 PM)
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#504621 - 07/09/17 12:13 PM Re: What Is Intelligence?! [Re: Baron Karza]
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Originally Posted By: Baron Karza

I spent 10 years as an educator, and the reason I got out of it is because I realized it was a worthless profession. The old quote really is true: "Those that can, DO … those that can't, TEACH."


Why do you think it was worthless?
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