#67218 - 12/06/04 03:06 AM
Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
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Registered: 09/13/04
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Loc: The Levant
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Magister Ventrue, Why did you attach a Baphomet to a Nazi-Germany Flag and placed it on the Message Board?
Is it a parody of some sort? Or have I misunderstood the origin and orientation of the background?
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#67219 - 12/06/04 06:08 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Mekhet]
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CoS Magister
Registered: 03/06/03
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That is a pretty far-fetched interpretation.
It is a circle with intersecting lines.
Just because the Nazis had something similar does that mean no one can ever use a circle with intersecting lines again?
The Nazis also used buildings with four walls and a roof, I suppose it is Nazi-like to use anything similar?
Don't be so eager to feel like a victim.
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#67221 - 12/06/04 06:19 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Mekhet]
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CoS Reverend
Registered: 08/22/03
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Actually, (and I'm serious here), it resembles the Zuni Indian sun symbol more than anything I'm aware of.
It's used on the New Mexico state flag, seen below.
In Zuni mythology, each of the four groups of four lines represents four things each.
The four directions - north, east, south and west. The four seasons - spring, summer, fall and winter. The day - sunrise, noon, evening and night. Life - childhood, youth, middle years and old age.
Each of these Zuni symbolisms represents something actual rather than spiritual. No problemo.
It's a beautiful graphic with "Satanically wholesome" implications (for me) and I compliment Magister Ventrue on his impeccable good taste.
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#67222 - 12/06/04 10:10 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Mekhet]
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CoS Reverend
Registered: 07/06/02
Posts: 1232
Loc: Casa Diaboli
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What you are refering to is not a nazi symbol.
It is the symbol of the German airforce since 1914 c.e. and it is still today. During the 3.Reich, it was around the swastika and therefore shaped like a circle. Before and after that, it was around the German/Germanian Cross.
And still today you can see it on German Airforce planes. See pic attached....A German Tornado Radar Jammer

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#67224 - 12/07/04 05:09 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Magister Frost]
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Registered: 11/07/04
Posts: 83
Loc: UK.
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Then again if you want to attract a bunch of skinhead neo-nazi's to the board, stick a swastika (reversed) on the site somewhere and tell 'em it is The Sun Wheel and voila! Within a short matter of time you will hear the thud of Doctor Martin boots as they join the site. Whether they can actually read what's on it is a different matter!  Most of them have a vocabulary that is somewhere between 10 and 20 words. 
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#67225 - 12/07/04 08:35 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Gone again]
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Registered: 06/30/01
Posts: 5816
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"Then again if you want to attract a bunch of skinhead neo-nazi's to the board, stick a swastika (reversed) on the site somewhere and tell 'em it is The Sun Wheel and voila! Within a short matter of time you will hear the thud of Doctor Martin boots as they join the site."
I don't think you would have to reverse the swastika
symbol. Most don't even know that it is reversed. I think they would have problems getting past the "S" word if they ever came here.
"Whether they can actually read what's on it is a different matter! Most of them have a vocabulary that is somewhere between 10 and 20 words."
They will be very easy to spot then won't they. Really though, racists usually blow it here as soon as they post something and not all racists show up under the banner of Nazi. Moderators here deal with these folks very effectively
so we don't need to be very PC about imagery here. I'm not afraid of using a Baphomet so why worry about a Germanic looking cross. People have to get over their hang-ups about such things. This is an important part of what makes us Satanists.
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Edited by Magister_Lang (12/08/04 09:22 AM)
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#67228 - 12/09/04 09:50 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Magister_Lang]
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Registered: 11/05/04
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Loc: Taxationland
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Magical Misterioso Magister_Lang, and is that Baphomet cuff links I detect shining through your avatar! And can you direct me to the vendor. HAIL SATAN!
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#67229 - 12/10/04 05:20 AM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Magister_Lang]
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Registered: 11/07/04
Posts: 83
Loc: UK.
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The new logo has only been up for a number of days and already the Neo-Nazi's are crawling out of the woodwork... How depressing. I would like to be wrong about these things some day. Some day... 
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#67230 - 12/10/04 05:49 AM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Gone again]
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Registered: 05/21/03
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The new logo has only been up for a number of days and already the Neo-Nazi's are crawling out of the woodwork...
How depressing. I would like to be wrong about these things some day.
Some day...
Try to tone down the smugness or you'll be riding Magister Ventrue's boot out the door again.
We who have been here for a while know that Nazi jackasses are a part of life. They show up- they get kicked out.
Your posts demonstrate that your grasp of Satanic principles is not quite as firm as you think. We don't need lectures from you on how to run the CoS. Magister Ventrue doesn't need lectures on how to run his board. We have all managed quite well without you for years.
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#67235 - 12/23/04 05:50 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Nostias]
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Registered: 06/12/01
Posts: 4610
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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Thanks. 
The SS looked great no one can deny that.
Thanks for what?
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#67236 - 12/23/04 06:22 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Nostias]
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Registered: 06/30/01
Posts: 5816
Loc: I-BLISS!
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"Thanks.
The SS looked great no one can deny that."
Are you saying that you dress like a WWII SS Officer?
I doubt it. If you don't then why the "thanks"?????
It does not sound to me like the Nazi's would even like you. Putting your friends and family before the Nation was a big taboo with the Nazis. The fatherland was the godhead. Nothing was more important. Not the individual, not his family. Satanism is the antithesis of that. We put ourselves and our loved ones first and foremost before anything. A real Nazi would have me shot just for saying that.
As far as the Nazis of today go, most are dirty baseball cap totting trailer trash and rednecks in soiled sweats whos idea of "elite" is to see how many beer guzzling cretins you can fit into a farmers field so that they can whine about how someone stole their job.
It seems to me that you are far more interested in the imagery of Nordic myth and WWII Germany than with actual Nazi philosophy. You do not have to be a National Socialist to like your culture and what many of these symbols really represent. Take the best of it and put the rest in the trash can with all the other failed ideologies. Racism is simply bunk!

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“The world, like a wolf pack is not all the licking of pups and howls by the moonlight. Sometimes there just needs to be a gnashing of teeth and a ripping of flesh to put things back into the natural order of things.”
XLII A.S.
"Magic is a tool and is essentially useless unless it can serve you here and now! Anything else is simply an act in faith and an excuse for failure in the here and now." XLVI A.S. R. Lang
"Chaos is a creation of mankind and does not exist within the uncompromising fascism of natures laws! Everything has order." XLVI A.S R. Lang
"To believe in Chaos one must believe that their is some kind of God who all of a sudden put everything into order! That!, I cannot relate too..." R. Lang XLVI A.S.
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#67237 - 03/23/05 02:27 PM
Re: Question concerning the new Baphomet-Flag
[Re: Magister_Lang]
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Registered: 09/04/04
Posts: 93
Loc: US
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Magister Lang, you just reminded me of the NCO that ran the Gas Chamber (CS gas) during my time in Army Basic Training. He donned a Charlie Chaplin Moustache. It added a lot of humor to one of those crappy things all soldiers must go through in Basic. Strangely, this NCO seemed to really enjoy his job.  I think the moustache really added to the atmosphere. It seemed to intimidate quite a few of the guys. Bravo to him! Hail Satan! Alex
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